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  Derek Ohare was murdered. R.I.P dear friend

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/667n4uwbk4e?si=1dvek-qfw7ebf9up.

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  R.I.P. Derek you changed forever exjw activism. His demonstrations in front of many UK Kingdom Halls opened the eyes for many jws on CSA abuse victims. Although he was vilified at that time from Jaba the Hutt and his crew I did run a couple of articles on my website on his behalf and was extremely proud to have seen him in action
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  2nd Isaiah 49:6

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
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  6 and he said, it is too small a thing that thou shouldest be servant to me to raise up the sons of jacob, and to bring back the netzurei yisroel (preserved of israel,); i will also give thee for ohr goyim, that thou mayest be my yeshuah unto the ketzeh ha’aretz.. 2nd isaiah, actually an anonymous prophet at the time of cyrus, did his best to inspire and hearten his fellow countrymen.

  many judahites had lost hope and even lost faith.

  the explanations offered by previous prophets, namely that their own sins had resulted in their situation, were not adequate nor convincing.

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  The 70 weeks prophesy of Daniel started with the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem and entered its last week in 29AD , all Jews at the time based on that prophesy alone anticipated the Messiah.If not Jesus who was then the Messiah.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  ELENA,

  Please... there are so many atheist and agnostic exjw that go about their lives living morally and don't commit sexual crimes that he does. Do not blame religion and lack of moral compass for what he has done.How many fathers will leave their 2 young daughters during Christmas to go and have sex with underage trafficed girls in Thailand. I haven't met one yet!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Lloyds entire situation is a good example of what often happens when someone wakes up that JWs have got a lot wrong, perhaps almost everything wrong. Then what do you believe
  

  Elena, Lloyd never had that dilemma, that came later.He is degenerate that was texting minors and by all accounts had a sexual encounter with a minor in Wales while an elder. The crisis of conscience was a convenient way to fleece the exjw community. I blame the elders in Wilmslow who instead of dealing with him, disfellowshiping him and making him stay they told him to escape to Croatia.Had they dealt with him there and then he would be a witness married with kids knowing full well the shame and the stigma that will bring to his family if he took it any further. BUT in Croatia all bets were Off, like an unsupervised toddler he did his worse with no one looking or judging until our hero Kim Silvio did what a Wilmslow elder should have done in the first place
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  Now the Baptist Church is waking up to the Watchtower's scandals

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/jehovah-s-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked.

  the following article appeared on baptist standard's online edition in january 18, 2024. other christian denominations are starting to pay attention to the legal cases against the watchtower and write about it.

  like the watchtower did in yester years with catholic csa cases.. oslo district court in norway is home to an ongoing trial after norway deregistered the jehovah’s witnesses last year.

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  Vidiot I agree
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  Now the Baptist Church is waking up to the Watchtower's scandals

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/jehovah-s-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked.

  the following article appeared on baptist standard's online edition in january 18, 2024. other christian denominations are starting to pay attention to the legal cases against the watchtower and write about it.

  like the watchtower did in yester years with catholic csa cases.. oslo district court in norway is home to an ongoing trial after norway deregistered the jehovah’s witnesses last year.

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  They will do anything for these precious million cronas , Mamon is their real god
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  Now the Baptist Church is waking up to the Watchtower's scandals

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/jehovah-s-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked.

  the following article appeared on baptist standard's online edition in january 18, 2024. other christian denominations are starting to pay attention to the legal cases against the watchtower and write about it.

  like the watchtower did in yester years with catholic csa cases.. oslo district court in norway is home to an ongoing trial after norway deregistered the jehovah’s witnesses last year.

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  raymond frantz

  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/jehovah-s-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked

  The following article appeared on Baptist Standard's online edition in JANUARY 18, 2024

  Other Christian denominations are starting to pay attention to the legal cases against the Watchtower and write about it. Like the Watchtower did in yester years with Catholic CSA cases.

  Oslo District Court in Norway is home to an ongoing trial after Norway deregistered the Jehovah’s Witnesses last year.

  WASHINGTON (RNS)—After Norway deregistered the Jehovah’s Witnesses last year, some human rights experts say the nation’s reputation as a bastion of religious freedom could be in question.

  Now, the Jehovah’s Witnesses of Norway are suing the state for revoking their national registration and withholding state funds. According to Jehovah’s Witnesses, they are the first religious group to lose their national registration in Norway, which recognizes more than 700 faith communities.

  The trial, which began Jan. 8, will determine whether some practices of the Jehovah’s Witnesses violate Norway’s Religious Communities Act or whether withdrawing the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ registration violates their right to freedom of religion and freedom of association, as guaranteed in the European Convention on Human Rights.

  “It’s certainly the most important trial about a religious freedom issue in Norway in decades,” Willy Fautré, director of the Brussels-based organization Human Rights Without Frontiers, told Religion News Service.

  Accused of defying Norway’s Religious Communities Act

  In January 2022, Valgerd Svarstad Haugland, the county governor of Oslo and Viken, in Norway, denied Jehovah’s Witnesses state grants for the year 2021 in response to concerns about what she perceived as exclusionary practices(=in layman terms, disfellowshiping practises). The Jehovah’s Witnesses had received the grants, which currently amount to around $1.5 million annually, for three decades.

  These funds typically are used for international disaster relief work(=so next time the Warchtower offers you to help free of your time and energy the "brothers" tell they have received over 45 million crona just from the Norwegian government the past 30 years and get on their bike and do it themselves) and supporting religious activity in Norway, including translating literature and building kingdom halls, said Jørgen Pedersen, spokesperson for Jehovah’s Witnesses in Norway.

  The county governor of Oslo and Viken claimed Jehovah’s Witnesses are forbidden to contact disfellowshipped members, as well as people who voluntarily dissociate, which can hinder a person’s ability to freely withdraw from the group.

  She also argued Jehovah’s Witnesses may disfellowship children who have chosen to be baptized if they break the religious community’s rules, a practice she said constituted “negative social control” and violated children’s rights.(=When assessing whether a type of behaviour constitutes negative social control, consideration shall be given to the age and development of the controlled party, as well as to the principle of the child’s best interests)

  These practices, the county governor argued, defy Norway’s Religious Communities Act.

  “We have assessed the offenses as systematic and intentional, and have therefore chosen to refuse grants,” a statement from the county governor said.

  Clarifying stance on disfellowship

  In an email to RNS, Jehovah’s Witnesses spokesperson Jarrod Lopes said Witnesses only disfellowship an unrepentant member who “makes a practice” of serious violations of “the Bible’s moral code.”(=carefully crafted legalistic language at its best)

  Even then, Lopes added, Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t force members to limit or cease association with former congregants, whether they’ve been disfellowshipped or withdrawn voluntarily—that’s up to individuals.

  “Congregation elders do not police the personal lives of congregants, nor do they exercise control over the faith of individual Jehovah’s Witnesses,” Lopes wrote.(=that's exactly what they do, in order to get me disfellowshipped they had a minor print my online chat and then post it through the letterbox at the Kingdom Hall because they didn't want to get for harassment and stalking )

  Serious sins that might lead to disfellowship include manslaughter, adultery and drug use, Pedersen explained. A congregation always will try to help an individual restore his or her relationship with God. But if the problem persists, Jehovah’s Witnesses feel compelled to respect the entire Bible, including instructions not to associate with unrepentant sinners, such as 1 Corinthians 5:11.

  Though the Witnesses appealed the county governor’s decision, in September 2022 the Ministry for Children and Families upheld the ruling.

  In October that same year, the county governor said in a press release that unless Jehovah’s Witnesses would “rectify the conditions that led to the refusal of state subsidies,” they would lose registration, which they did a few months later, in December.

  Without its national registration, Jehovah’s Witnesses cannot perform marriages, and they lose entitlement to government grants.(=its all about the money)

  Should the state interpret religious texts?

  The Jehovah’s Witnesses of Norway filed two lawsuits against the state in December 2022—one challenging the denial of state grants and another challenging their loss of registration. Those lawsuits have since been combined.

  Though the Oslo District Court initially granted the Jehovah’s Witnesses an injunction that suspended their deregistration until that case was argued, the Ministry challenged the injunction, and in April 2023, the court removed it.

  As the trial plays out at the District Court of Oslo, Jason Wise, an attorney acting as a consultant on the case for the legal team representing the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Norway, said part of the Witnesses’ argument is that

  1. there is no evidence of harm and

  2. it’s not the place of the state to interpret religious texts.

  The state continues to contend that the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ practices are in conflict with the Religious Communities Act, particularly, they claim, by exposing children to psychological violence.

  Since 2022, Jehovah’s Witnesses have reported an increase in vandalism, harassment and physical assaults in Norway. In September 2022, two Jehovah’s Witnesses in Harstad, Norway, reported that a man screamed at them and repeatedly attempted to hit one of them. That same month, a man in Kristiansand, Norway, reportedly set a Jehovah’s Witnesses mobile display car on fire, and a month later, someone attempted to set fire to a Jehovah’s Witnesses meeting place in Fauske, Norway.

  “What we see now is that the state of Norway is taking a look at my beliefs, saying, we don’t like that, we don’t like that,” said Pedersen. Asking Jehovah’s Witnesses to change their beliefs, he said, is a “violation of my integrity as a person, as a religious person, as a person with a conscience. That’s the core issue of this case.”

  Norway isn’t the only place where Jehovah’s Witnesses’ practices have been under scrutiny. In December, the Belgian Court of Cassation—the highest court in the Belgian judiciary—rejected an appeal of a lower court’s decision, ruling in favor of Jehovah’s Witnesses’ right to avoid contact with former members.

  “Norway is just the tip of another phenomenon,” Fautré said. “That is a source of concern, because we see that there are more and more attempts in Europe by state institutions to interfere and intrude into the teachings and practices of religious groups, which is forbidden by the European Convention. The risk is they would open the door to more court cases against other religious groups.”

  https://www.baptiststandard.com/news/world/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-norway-after-registration-revoked/
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  Are You Ready for the Most Important Day of the Year?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  luke 22:14 so when the hour came, he reclined at the table along with the apostles.

  and he said to them: “i have greatly desired to eat this passover with you before i suffer; 16 for i tell you, i will not eat it again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of god.” 17 and accepting a cup, he gave thanks and said: “take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves, 18 for i tell you, from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.”.

  19 also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “this means my body, which is to be given in your behalf.

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  raymond frantz

  When will the peasants revolt and do away with this abhorrent celebration of denial 😡😡😡
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  2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

  number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).

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  Jeffro

  Indeed, dear friend looks like they create new congregations in countries that have no increase, something tells me this is to fudge the numbers
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  2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

  number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).

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  slimboyfat5 hours ago

  Did you notice which figures they stopped publishing this year?

  Correct they stopped reporting the money spend on pioneers this year is not in the report